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Artificial Intelligence

So some group owned by Google has beaten the world champion at Go.

The singularity is nigh, or something.

Before Skynet lords over all of us, may I suggest that they try to build a semi-functional AI at playing Civilization. Or Europa Universalis IV. That would have more of an effect on actual humans than an actual Skynet.

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10 responses to “Artificial Intelligence

  1. Aaron March 13, 2016 at 00:26

    Ultimately computers will triumph by making a strategy game so good that humans will have no choice but to waste their lives playing it.

    • spandrell March 13, 2016 at 00:58

      In that case I for one would welcome our robot overlords.

      • bomag March 14, 2016 at 15:40

        robot overlords

        Ha! More like the SJW will mandate a 65 IQ for all robots so that we have even more entities on which to bestow victim status and related perks.

        I recently watched the movies “Chappie” (Blomkamp) and “Automata” (Ibáñez). I’d summarize them as “Robot lives matter”, with the formula being evil White men denying agency to worthy robots. Blomkamp was at least cynical enough to shoot an alternate ending where robots take over the world and finally end Privilege! etc.

        • spandrell March 14, 2016 at 18:10

          The other way around. Robots would come out to hack some bug in Skynet’s programming, and argue for keeping trillions of retarded humans around to fulfill some program requirement about being Nice.

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  3. Candide III March 17, 2016 at 13:45

    Being a Go player, my own feelings are complex. I admit to a resentment of Google’s DeepMind people, for damaging an important cultural artifact. I cannot find much to admire in the actual achievement. The program is too simple, relies crucially on millions of games played by humans and, most importantly, cannot teach or explain anything about Go to humans. Studying the arrangements of numbers in its neural networks is about as useful as dissecting Lee Sedol’s brain. Perhaps people will play against it, as they do with Rybka in chess, but it’s of limited use — like playing tennis with a wall. Butlerian Jihad FTW.

    • Candide III March 17, 2016 at 13:45

      * damaging an important cultural artifact for PR reasons

    • spandrell March 17, 2016 at 14:08

      Now that I think about it, I’d resent too an AI that completely obliterated any human playing at Civ.

      It’s bad enough when you get robotic-type people who are crunching the numbers and squeezing all the fun out of the game. I guess the real killer-app of AI will be an AI that is fun to play against, not just very good at winning.

      Still, it obviously is an impressive achievement. It didn’t take this long for nothing. I do wonder what real-world applications exist for this kind of thing. The talk about “understanding natural language” is so clueless it’s not even funny.

      • Candide III March 17, 2016 at 15:01

        I don’t resent the AI, it’s not a person and is not a proper target for the emotion of resentment. I resent the people who made AlphaGo to show off and generate PR (and raise valuations) for their company. Now that I think of it, it’s not terribly far from the achievement of Herostrates.
        As for real-world applications of the technology, it might be useful for tagging images, sounds and videos on the web. It needs a huge amount of human-generated data to train against. I agree about “understanding natural language”.

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