Bloody shovel

Don't call it a spade


My wife tells me about this acquaintance of her. Flight attendant. Pretty, flirty, and very good at getting what she wanted from men. Used to juggle 3 or 4 guys at the same time, and used them according to a smart division of labor. One rich guy to get presents from, a hot guy to have wild sex with, a social guy to meet people and get attention. You get the picture.

This woman suddenly stopped her slutty ways after her 30th birthday. She suddenly started proclaiming her faith in Jesus, left her job and her boyfriends. Not long afterwards he announced her engagement to what could easily be the ugliest man I’ve ever seen. Short, skinny with a really disgusting face. Immensely rich, obviously. They had one of this movie-style weddings in the open, on a cliff looking at the sea, hundreds of people attending.

All this happened years ago. I always thought of this woman as a very smart bitch. Kinda the personalization of girl game. The thing is, Game gets you what you want. But we all know that the one only thing which is worse than not getting what you want, is getting it.

My wife acquired new gossip about this girl. Seems she’s working as a makeup assistant now. She studied hard and has now become quite a good professional. “Hah!”, I said. “She’s getting old huh. So she’s studying how to keep pretty. The bitch really is smart, and realistic. Kudos to her.” My wife laughed. “She’s actually making good money, it seems.”

That kinda struck me as weird. “Why does she have to work at all? That imp she married is loaded, right? Would you work if I had 50 million dollars? Hell I wouldn’t work myself if I were rich.”

“You’re not rich now and I’m not working.”, she said, with a cute smile.

“Heh. Well you have the baby to take care of. Which reminds me… she’s been married for years already. Why doesn’t she have any kids?”

“Oh she doesn’t want to have any children at all. Been saying it to everyone apparently. Says she couldn’t possibly be a good mother.”

“She could if she weren’t busy putting make up on old ugly bitches.”

Then I realized that of course it makes no sense that she couldn’t take care of a baby. This woman is obviously smart and hard working, and raising a children isn’t that hard. Double digit IQ people worldwide do it all the time, and as long as food and healthcare is readily available it’s really hard to screw up.

It follows that she doesn’t want children. And specifically doesn’t want her husband’s children. Women are programmed to want to have babies with men they love. Hell even rock band groupies have a fervent wish to bear children of her favorite star.

Now, I can’t really blame her for not wanting his children. I wouldn’t want to mix my genes with that imp either. But then why did she marry him? For the money of course. For an instant my manosphere neurons flared up, and I felt pity for the guy. Being used for his money and not even given children. But on second thought, he should have known. Hell he could still push her for children, and divorce her if she refused. The local laws wouldn’t have any problem with that, and he wouldn’t have to pay anything. The guy probably listens to her nagging all the time, and deeply understands her position, and supports her being a strong independent woman. He doesn’t deserve pity. Only scorn.

This smart and calculating woman is selecting herself out of the gene pool. I’m sure her father, who used to be so proud of her beautiful and clever daughter, is now depressed about not having grandchildren (she has siblings, but those aren’t very fertile either for other reasons). Compare that to the dumb neighborhood dumb slut who fucked all her high school class, and at 19 was knocked up by some neighborhood kid, then had the baby. Everybody hates the slut, even the guys who are fucking her. But Darwin really loves her.

I used to be mystified by the usual news of girls in India being murdered in honor-killings by their parents for fucking a guy of the wrong tribe. I mean for hundreds and hundreds of years they know they’re not supposed to fuck around, less of all with the outgroup. They are educated very strictly by the whole community to avoid that. But there’s always some Hindu girl fucking the Muslim boy. And she usually gets killed. Just how goddamn horny are they? Do they want to fuck that badly? Under risk of death? Hell how stupid is that.

But if you compare the long term fitness of conscientious, smart and calculating women and dumb sluts, it’s not hard to see that the genes for dumb sluttiness are *very* useful. Those never fail to churn babies even under the most strict anti-slut regimes. Having those slut genes around might have saved more than one tribe from extinction.

So let’s relax a bit on the slut shaming. Yes too many sluts are harmful to society, and God knows I don’t want one in my family. But Darwin likes those genes, so they aren’t going anywhere.


27 responses to “Sluts

  1. nickbsteves January 2, 2014 at 20:23

    Too many sluts harmful to society + Darwin loves slut genes = why we slut shame

    • spandrell January 2, 2014 at 21:31

      Do it too well, and in the unfortunate case your whole tribe welcomes modernity, you become like the Parsis and educate your women into tribal extinction in 2 generations.

      • chris January 5, 2014 at 10:16

        Isn’t that also why they shamed not just sluts, but also barren women, i.e. old maids, spinsters, etc.

      • sunshinemary January 11, 2014 at 19:05

        Slut shaming combined with pro-natalist encouragement for married women leads to a growing, healthy population.

        At present, we have natalist-shaming and pro-slut encouragement, and our population is declining. I disagree that backing off on the slut shaming will help.

  2. Handle January 2, 2014 at 20:53

    The future becomes like the kind of people who have the most babies in the past.

    When everyone tried to have as many babies as possible, and it was hard to get baby-making resources, then society gradually filled up with people better at acquiring resources and providing them to babies. That’s basically the story of ‘A farewell to Alms’ and some of ‘The 10,000 year explosion’.

    But now people are trying to avoid having babies, so the people best at avoiding it – frigid, educated, and conscientious people, will gradually disappear compared to the horny, dumb, and impulsive. Idiocracy writ large and ugly.

    The critical mass prevalence of Disciplined Human Intelligence that built modern civilization turns out to be the greatest bubble of all time.

  3. Freeman January 2, 2014 at 22:22

    I think you are putting far too much faith in the slut’s word. It sounds more like she is projecting/in denial about not wanting kids. Likely at her age she is probably obsessed with children, but may not be able too. If she truly was a slut, years of promiscuity may have lowered her fertility. STDs, different seminal fluid chemistries, higher risk of cervical cancers, etc. The vagina is a warm and moist environment, perfect for bacteria and susceptible to infection.

    Just because she married the guy doesn’t mean she has to have his child. I’ve read anecdotes where blood specialists in nurseries will state that on blood types alone, which means conservatively, at least 30% of children are to fathers different than those on the birth certificate.

    • spandrell January 3, 2014 at 04:45

      Gotta call bullshit on that one. There are stats out there, and it’s always a small number. 30% is just insane.

      • Freeman January 3, 2014 at 14:05

        I never claimed fact. Only anecdotes from practitionera. Could you point me to a couple of those studies if you dont mind though? I vaguely remember reading about DNA analysis studies suggesting a historical rate of 2%, which makes sense to me. Historically there were much greater social protections against cuckolding. I saw a paper (Anderson 2007) that put the range between 2-30% out of 67 studies.

        I would love to find a paper that analyzes a good sample size of children/fathers after 1990.

  4. zhai2nan2 January 2, 2014 at 22:50

    Slut shaming isn’t just about babies, it’s also about venereal diseases.

    The current culture is strongly influenced by radical pro-sex activists who promote sex regardless of consequences.

    If modern societies get serious about dealing with infectious diseases, there will have to be a lot of anti-sex propaganda to re-engineer the mob’s habits back into line with limited hospital resources.

  5. Zarf January 2, 2014 at 23:57

    But the woman you describe IS a slut. Or rather is a sort of shallow greedy vampire who was formerly able to suck in other people’s life-force as a slut and now does so in the ways that are still available to her.

  6. john January 3, 2014 at 06:13

    I think you are making a big deal out of nothing. There is a paradigm shift and women have more power, betas have more power. Whenever evolution encounter changes in the environment, this is how it works. A million different combinations of culture/genes. What you just witnessed with this particular slut is just one of the combinations. It leads to a dead end. That is not surprising. Most combinations lead to dead ends, some gets there faster then others. Eventually, some combinations will come up winners and the specie carries on, barely recognizable from her former self. On the other end of the spectrum, dysgenic breeding is leading to brazilisation of large part of the advanced world.

    • spandrell January 3, 2014 at 06:39

      How’s that any different from anything I said?

    • Zarf January 5, 2014 at 00:52

      “Women have more power, betas have more power”? — No, women have more power, betas have LESS power. Betas are the technician/specialist/professional class. They have to get married and stay married in order to have sex. Now women of their own social class don’t have to marry them, because these women can have “careers” as people-manipulators while having sex with alphas, and these women can divorce them whenever their beta-ness become tedious. Meanwhile beta-salaries decline and the betas find themselves living in one-room apartments, because the women vote for alpha rulers who promote restributive economic policies and the mass immigration of more cheaply employable betas. Or something like that. Anyway, its pretty clear that life’s getting steadily worse for beta males.

  7. Baker January 3, 2014 at 09:53

    If you remember, I said that the change from physical power based economy to mind based economy will evolutionarily induce increased sexual dimorphism of mind, just as evolution had done to physical body. In your example, the woman is too manipulative to want kids and the man is too in-manipulative to get kids. The loss of their gene increases the sexual dimorphism in the gene pool.

  8. Toddy Cat January 3, 2014 at 17:42

    Great article, Spandrell, but remember, the title is “Stewardess”, not ” Flight attendant”.

  9. Red January 3, 2014 at 18:09

    I’ve never understood why you would shame sluts. Cast them out? Sure. Confine them away from good women? Yep. However, sluts make up a useful group of people there to motive men through sex. The problem with sluts is when men decide to give them the position and status of good wife or good daughter. There they become very destructive due to their unnatural role.

    Have you ever encountered someone who was sexual abused as a child? In most but not all cases such children become sluts. The frequent and early sexulazation changes the the way their brain works. When families react with shame and horror of their daughter fucking around it’s because we know on a deep down level that you can flip that switch to the fully slut on position by allowing a girl to have many partners at an early age.

    • spandrell January 3, 2014 at 18:28

      It’s mostly other women doing the shaming, and the odd clueless white knight. Women of course have all the incentive in the world to shame those sluts who erode the power they have over their men. You don’t break the cartel.

      Probably shortsighted, as doing it too much ends up risking your young buys getting buggered, but women aren’t known for their strategic sense.

  10. Aaron January 4, 2014 at 03:51

    1. To state the obvious, where the flight attendant failed is that she was too materialistic and waited too long. She should have found some compromise of provider, looks, social traits rather than just maxing out provider. When she was 25ish. I guess intellect could have helped or hindered this process depending on her upbringing. This isn’t to say she had a “bad” upbringing necessarily, but it’s probably lacking in some way that isn’t bringing out honest realizations.

    2. I agree that sluts get a worse rep than they deserve. Somewhat related: hypergamy gets a worse rep than it deserves. There is so much taboo surrounding hypergamy that because it cuts so close to the core of monogamy and male self esteem. Men are conflicted about hypergamy because for all its frustrations winning at hypergamy feels meaningful precisely because its so demanding. If womens’ libidos were different from what they now such that they lusted according fairness and egalitarianism, sex would no longer carry a sense of accomplishment. Shouldn’t women want to mate with more athletic, more masculine men (or more creative, social, whatever, etc) and isn’t it unreal to think that they should want do anything else?

    • asdf January 7, 2014 at 19:44

      Men like hypergamy when what woman lust for are good things (strong, productive, creative, etc.) However, if they lust for bad things (violence, theft, subversion, etc) then it causes society to self destruct. A lot of tension with hypergamy comes from the fact that hypergamy has no social or moral component. The mob boss satisfies hypergamy while being an immense negative to society.

      Hypergamy, like so many other things, is only useful when its regulated by society.

      • Aaron January 8, 2014 at 22:02

        Aggression is a necessary trait, if nothing else, in a world where aggression is possible (i.e. IRL). Males need a certain amount of aggression in order to survive (even in our domesticated smart phone culture) and to not be displaced by other men. Consider two deer fighting over a doe, bashing their antlers against each other. Groups of men need to have a certain amount of aggression or they will be displaced by other groups of men. I recall the (possibly apocryphal yet very plausible sounding) urban legend that criminals and cops had very similar psychological profiles. The mob boss, the athlete, the street thug, the soldier, the cop, the guerrilla fighter are all expressions of masculine aggression, just at differing levels of social acceptability.

        If you had a society in which all the men were non-aggressive, cooperative, high IQ, and hard working you would have a highly productive and pleasant society that would be ripe for pillaging. This platonic state of maximum economic productivity would be awesome to live in but also an unstable hothouse flower. It wouldn’t take much external pressure to reintroduce aggression and start to decay over time. The male population would be sexually if not physically displaced by internal or external competition. This played out in Eurasia several times, where crude but hardy barbarians would come pouring in from some marginal too-cold/too-hot area to pillage more settled societies.

  11. Some Guy January 4, 2014 at 23:29

    Enjoyed the post, until this.

    >But there’s always some Hindu girl fucking the Muslim boy. And she usually gets killed.

    In the context of “honor killings,” it’s predominantly the Muslim girls getting killed by their Muslim male relatives. Not the other way round.

    • spandrell January 5, 2014 at 07:31

      I’ve seen it both ways, but anyway. You’d think 1000 years of repression would have selected the slut genes out of Muslim women, but nope.

      • Mitchell Porter January 7, 2014 at 06:27

        Perhaps we’d better define our terms. You don’t speak of women being murdered for having sex with many men, but just for having sex with a man from outside the group. So do you define any woman who has sex with a culturally (or just parentally) disapproved man, as a slut?

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